() was president when he was elected for the first time in 2016. He maintained an institutional relationship with the American and now believes that it will have limited effects on Brazil — which includes possible pressure to reverse ()’s ineligibility.
“Electing Trump in the USA, will this influence the Judiciary here? I don’t believe it,” says Temer, who, in 2021, acted as a bridge to reduce tensions between the then president and the (Federal Supreme Court).
“See what Alexandre [de Moraes] did in the case of Elon Musk. “, he says. It was the emedebista who nominated Moraes to the STF, when president.
Temer also classifies as a “joke” information that circulated that he could be Bolsonaro’s vice-president if he reversed his ineligibility. “I thought it was really weird.”
Mr. was president during Trump’s early years. How does a new Republican mandate affect the relationship with Brazil?
The relationship that will exist will not be between Lula and Trump. He is the president of the Federative Republic of Brazil with the president of the United States, an institutional relationship.
The question I hear is: will this harm the relationship with Brazil? It doesn’t harm anything. All it takes is for the Brazilian government to have social security, and the president. One should not feed one side or the other, like what , who preferred Kamala [Harris, candidata democrata]I don’t think it’s worth it.
Don’t you see any impacts from the policies?
That’s what time will tell. It’s not his election that will decide now. There may be impacts if there is a reduction in imports and, even so, at an institutional level, from State to State.
Can Trump’s victory change the situation of Bolsonaro’s ineligibility, based on American pressure on the STF?
I don’t think that will happen. It can eventually be used as an argument, but not in the jurisdictional field. If he becomes eligible, it will be through a possible decision by the Judiciary.
Effectively, for you to take care of this issue of ineligibility, you have to rely on the Judiciary. Trump is elected in the USA, will this influence the Judiciary here? I don’t believe. You see what Alexandre [de Moraes, ministro do STF] did in the case of Elon Musk [empresário dono do X]. No matter how many pressures there were, his position was firm.
Mr. has already acted as a bridge between Bolsonaro and the STF. Would I do it again to help him in this case?
That September 7th [de 2021], I spoke with Alexandre, we agreed on a formula that resulted in that statement to the nation [em que Bolsonaro negou “intenção de agredir” outros Poderes, dois dias depois de ]. It was, in fact, to pacify the country, because that could lead to a major civil conflict. Now, I’m not going to enter, unless I’m asked to give my opinion, and that didn’t happen.
I think the Judiciary did very well in sentencing [impor pena] those people who attempted, I don’t know if a coup d’état or not, but who violated the Powers of State, because they physically invaded the headquarters. The Supreme Court had no other solution.
What can happen is, by judicial measure, at a given moment, the Judiciary provides a sentence-reducing solution, for example. But I applaud the decision of the Supreme Court and, in particular, Alexandre.
In recent days, rumors have circulated of a Bolsonaro-Temer ticket if he regains the right to run. Do these conversations exist?
This is a joke, it has to be. I found it very strange.
Bolsonaro says he would not rule out this hypothesis.
If he said that, then he was tactful. If he said he discarded it, they might think I was the one wanting…
