Reported to the (Federal Supreme Court) under an attempted coup d’état, () said on Tuesday (25) seeing his conviction as probably considering the current conditions and said that the first class of the Court, responsible for the case, is known as “gas chamber”.
“If you look at one class with the other, this class I am, has a nickname, right? Gas chamber. He entered there …”, he stated in an interview with journalist Leo Dias. Asked who would have nicknamed the group in this way, he replied: “That’s what we hear about.”
The complaint of (Attorney General’s Office) against Bolsonaro should be tried in the first class of the Supreme Court, where the minister, rapporteur of the case acts. It is still formed by the ministers, and.
“By the ride of the carriage, you will be convicted of this class, right?” Asked the journalist. “Nowadays, yes, but there is a time ahead yet,” he replied.
The two ministers appointed by the former president in his term, and are part of the second class of the Supreme, composed of Gilmar Mendes, Edson Fachin and Dias Toffoli.
On Tuesday, Gilmar praised PGR’s complaint and said the PF report is “very solid, with a large documentation”, which “made the complaint also quite concatenated.”
Bolsonaro said in the interview that he currently talks with 4 of the 11 members of the Court and mentioned that he has had problems with Dino.
The former president also stated that, if convicted of all the crimes he is accused, with penalties that may add over 40 years, he may die in prison.
“You can spend 40 years stuck,” said Leo Dias. “Forty years, no. I die in jail. I won’t live anymore [do que isso]”, he countered, adding that he thinks” for some important people, I don’t matter in stuck, I don’t matter to be dead. “
Bolsonaro was charged on the 19th by the (Attorney General’s Office) of committing crimes of attempted violent abolition of the Democratic Rule of Law and the coup d’état, damage qualified by violence and serious threat against the heritage of the Union, deterioration of Heritage listed and participation in a criminal organization.
In addition, the maximum penalties reach 43 years in prison, not to mention the aggravating factors, besides the possibility of being ineligible longer than the eight years for which he was convicted by the TSE (Superior Electoral Court) in 2023.
During the interview, the former president again defended himself from accusations of attempted coup and minimize his participation in scammer acts from January 8, stating, without citing evidence, that the attack on the headquarters of the three powers “was scheduled on the left “.
He said his former orders Mauro Cid, whose award-winning collaboration was released last week, “was tortured” psychologically by Moraes in testimonials. The minister, revoke the denunciation and continue with investigations that would reach his family members if he did not speak the truth.
“Behavior much milder than this served to nullify the Lava Jato. […] In my case is ten times more nullities, “he argued. Asked if he was defending Cid, the former president said he would not attack him and put himself in his place.
“He [Cid] It grew a lot, everyone called him, I nicknamed his phone from the lamentation wall. […] I think he got excited about this mission, he had the excessive initiative. Sometimes I wanted to solve without talking to the right person. In good faith, to make it very clear, “he said.
Bolsonaro also minimized those of some of the accused of. In one of them, former chief of the so-called army “black kids”, says “the decree is real and was dispatched yesterday with the president” and asks “movement.”
“Is there any audio with me?” He asked. He then stated that “the state of siege was studied,” but that if it were to actually publish a decree, it would have to have summoned the defense and republic councils, “about 30 people,” and it didn’t even arrive at this stage.
Asked if he would accept to be the “first gentleman” of his wife, Michelle, if she was elected president in 2026, Bolsonaro said, laughing, that “this gentleman’s chat will not fall well for me.” He said Michelle communicates well, is known all over the country and did a good job as a first lady, but she doesn’t want to be a candidate.
He again said that she has already agreed to apply for the Senate. The former president admitted that she does not have a good relationship with her son and councilor Carlos Bolsonaro (PL), but deflected about the reasons. He quoted jealousy, Michelle’s genius and past problems.
Asked about other names on the right, Bolsonaro said he would rather not talk about Pablo Marçal (PRTB). He said he likes Guttavo Lima as a country singer, that he “has a kind of caipirão way of being, a little thick”, and that if they are adversaries in elections “will be treated with the greatest cordiality.”
The former president also said that federal deputy Nikolas Ferreira (PL-MG) needs to “know his right time”, because he has certain things that depends on age, and that he cannot let “fame climb to the head”.
