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Debate would start about health, President of the Check spoke soon about immigration. Free spokesman warned of a “huge injustice.”
The president of He arrives accused the Book To want to transform the National Health Service into an “open bar”, insisting on restrictions on immigrants, and Rui Tavares countered that this would be a “huge injustice” for those who work in the country.
In a front-front with some tense moments, and in which the two protagonists interrupted themselves several times, the president of the arrival, André Ventura, was asked about the health sector but eventually introduced in the debate the theme of immigration, after today it was announced that the number of immigrants in the country will surround them.
André Ventura argued that the increase in the population Immigrant contributes to “Chaos in Health” And he again argued that the Portuguese must have “privileged access” to the NHS to the detriment of these citizens – whose contributions to social security reached a record of 3.6 billion euros in 2024.
“O Rui Tavares wants a national health service that is open bar. Regardless of whether they have contributed or not. We demand that anyone who comes here has to have paid something to the Portuguese health service, ”argued Ventura, who argues that an immigrant has a minimum of five years of contribution before accessing health care.
In this debate, the spokesman for Free Rui Tavares countered that “the NHS at this time works with immigrants, often”.
“It would be the greatest injustice to say” come here, help the National Health Service, paid taxes to the National Health Service, work in the National Health Service, but you are not attended here. ” huge injustice Tell a child that he did not choose to be born daughter of Portuguese or immigrant and who lives in our country and who arrived here with two or three years, as many children of Portuguese, ”he argued.
Arguing that the NHS “is fighting with a blindfold and the backwards behind the back,” Tavares has argued that the law must force private health to make public information as the NHS, and proposed a “return program” with incentives to return to the country of emigrated health professionals.
Other topics
In the economy, first about the IVA ZERO IN CABAZ FOOD – Now proposed by the PS but has been proposed to arrive at the end of 2023 – André Ventura says this is an original proposal of the arrival and accuses the PS of being “an irresponsible and electoralist party.”
“In December 2023 it arrives that it proposed that the food cabaz had VAT zero. At the time the PS voted against because it was in government and is now in opposition,” he said.
Soon after, Rui Tavares left a different suggestion for all Portuguese: being a kind of lie detector: “If I identify and dismantle every lie of André Ventura in all these debates, I did nothing else and would not have time to pass my own ideas and solutions to the country. I invite people to see the facts checking sites after the debate. The lie should not take place in politics in Portugal. Each time they see a lie from André Ventura – or any other – please send you, send, send, send,.”
The arrival leader criticized the idea of free to give 5 000 euros to each baby “Being born in Portugal”, a party that wants “a country of subsidiodependentes”. “They can come here with a train, they draw 5000 to the Portuguese,” said the arrival leader. Rui Tavares explained what free wants: “A new generation of social policies, a measure that will come out cheaper than, for example, young IRS, and that allows you to introduce justice in the path of people’s lives when they enter adulthood.”
While accusing Rui Tavares of not answering your questionsAndré Ventura returned to another level in relation to his opponent and the size of the opponent’s parliamentary group: “I am a candidate for prime minister, Rui Tavares only fights for three or four deputies. One day he could be a candidate for prime minister, the country changes a lot!”
The president of the arrival claimed that his 50 deputies, although they did not enter the accounts to form government, allowed to end tolls, change the young IRS and change immigration policies.
Already on the tariffs imposed by the US Administration of Donald Trump To several countries, including from the European Union, questioned if he has already regretted supporting the Republican, Ventura replied that Trump is doing in the US what Europe should do as well.
“Either we protect Europe from China, India and Foreign Market, or protect our agriculture, our workers, our automotive industry, or we will end a stronghold of China, India, and these countries. Donald Trump is doing in the United States what we have to do in Europe. Protect our workers,” he said.
Ventura repeated an adaptation of Trump’s motto that wants “Make Portugal big again”.
“I know Free doesn’t believe it, but I believe. We have a nine centuries story. Our story is not to be lying out in Woke and LGBTQIA+, as Free wants,” he said.
For its part, Rui Tavares stressed that Trump’s tariffs will hurt “even more those who are poorer” and advocated that it is necessary to “walk around the country” and tell the Portuguese workers from sectors such as olive oil, cork or wine, which will be affected by this measure, “who has been on Trump’s side”. And expects the US president to “not remember that the Azores exist.”
Ventura accuses Tavares of wanting the US out of the NATO and to expect the free “friends”, such as Venezuela or Iran, help Portugal in defense.
The two even spoke at the same time with each other, ignoring the farewells of moderator Hugo Gilberto, while Rui Tavares repeated that André Ventura was in the phase of “delirium”. The two microphones were silenced.
