Mayor of Recife and new national president of, argues that the ideal for the election in 2026 is to bring the center close and not to throw it to the right.
The 31 -year -old was reelected with 71% of the votes last year in a wide coalition and argues that (PT) (PT) reissue the Broad Front, with Geraldo Alckmin (PSB) in the vice. But for that, it is necessary to attract not only the center parties, but segments of society not polarized around a common agenda.
John defends a closer approach to the church, agribusiness, autonomous – all sectors with which the government has difficulty relationship.
In a convention this Friday (30), the PSB will officialize the mayor as national president of the party, a position that has already been held by his great-grandfather, Miguel Arraes (1916-2005), and his father, Eduardo Campos (1965-2014).
What will be the priority of your management ahead of the PSB? The priority is to strengthen the party in several aspects. You must have an assessment capacity and build an agenda that generates proximity to people, maintaining the essence of the PSB, a struggle that has always been for equality, social justice, for inclusion. But it takes electoral force. I have no doubt that we will be a progressive party with greater growth in the next. I see that the PSB has a very clear niche to occupy.
We know that you are working a lot behind the scenes to keep Alckmin as vice on Lula’s plate in what comes. If this does not happen, will the PSB break with the government and stop supporting Lula’s reelection? Our belief is that the president will not change the course. This construction that was done in 2022 was victorious. I have no doubt that Alckmin gathers all the necessary attributes to continue to do a great job for Brazil.
Will it be possible to reissue a large front next year? I see how the biggest challenge of the moment is to compatible governance with the electoral. What is happening is a dysfunction between government assembly and what is mirrored for an election. This is not easy to solve, because you need to have governability, but what we claim and always argue is that you have strengthened priority allies, because it gives you a protection in a programmatic field. The PSB sees itself as a priority ally and also likes the reciprocal.
Mr. Do you think Lula should have done a ministerial reform or have already lost the timing? Who assembles or disassembles a government is the president. It is an activity that always has what you adjust, correct. Our position will never be a position to arrive in an unreasonable pressure, public collection. This is not how the government is made. The good ally can work internally, but he will never work to want to do a public wear.
Isn’t it risky for reelection to reach the dispute without being with the center parties, such as União Brasil, PP, Republicans, MDB and PSD? It is strange for you to have a composition in which the parties are in government, but reportedly stand out from the government’s reelection. Don’t count on our party to do something like this. This is what generates discredit to politics. So when I say that parties need to have a critical assessment of how they position themselves, it goes around too. Now there is a real risk. Any political analyst will say that the center parties, their wide majority, do not have a decision made on 2026. And many would bet that even with the president [esses partidos] would be. By circumstances of states, of various regional positions, of party leaders of the party.
Mas dTo win election only with progressive parties? Those who are in a maximum leadership position have to represent their population. I did it in Recife. I had a broad milestone of alliances. It’s not easy, but if you do your homework to join, feed an agenda other than excessive polarization, get the discourse off the irrational and put it to the practical world, looking for a center close, you gain governability. So if you ask, John, what is the ideal world? I think the ideal world is that you have the largest possible front in the 2026 election and that the left has the ability to pull the center nearby and not throw the center to the right. It is necessary to widen more. Make a really wide front in 2026.
Should the government be charging greater loyalty of this party? It’s not just that it should be charging. It has to have a government agenda that has the ability to attract people from different creeds. For example, no one has doubt that Agro in Brazil generally has a position mostly contrary to government positions. So wouldn’t it be the case of having a more dialogued agenda to try to reduce this resistance? The government has done a lot in all areas, including this. But many times I think this is not capitalized, not harmoniously built.
But is it a communication problem only? No, it’s not communication. The government is communication, politics and management. There is no big culprit, nor a great Salvador. The government is much better than the reading people have of it. Positive actions do not arrive and negative actions often appear.
We have a great structural change in Brazil. This change of a lot at the same time, I think it’s the spice that is making things more difficult, irrational in politics. And the PSB will be the party that will make this reading. We have to have an agenda for the self -employed Brazilian, for example. Because there is a large portion of the population who thinks like this. We have to understand what they think to represent them. So I think this great fragility that politics has crossed is a lot because it doesn’t understand that things have changed.
Is the left having this difficulty of understanding? This is undeniable. But you have a misrepresentation, acidic and often distorted by the right. Shouts, causes noise, but she doesn’t deliver. What was a structured public policy in the area of vocational training, in the area of bureaucracy, in the area of productive inclusion that the Bolsonaro government made? So, on one side you have the right screaming, understanding that this agenda exists and screaming without delivering, and a part of the left saying that this agenda does not exist or is wrong. I think, honestly, that the truth is much more through this way.
The left needs to learn to scream more? I don’t believe it is out there. Don’t go the way your opponent wants. Go for what is best for you to do what you believe. I remember my father saying that. Often, the federal government itself enters a agenda that the opposition places. Who has to make the agenda is the government. I think the best way is not to increase the volume, no. Perhaps a noise cancellation is more appropriate [risos].
The government could have an agenda with the churches, for example. Almost every church has social work. If our field works so much for formation, popular participation, because we do not seek greater proximity to understand this social arm that the churches have had to get to where the state often does not arrive? I think it may have more proximity. For that, it is not shouting that you will do, but it is seeing where you can go.
What other segments mr. Do you think you have to approach? It is necessary to have a strong dialogue in relation to large urban centers, the problem of urban violence is a big problem today. It is necessary to understand agro niches and communicate what is being done.
In some interviews that mr. He gave last year, spoke of and how people have real -life demands. Does this logic also apply in next year’s election? I think the majority of the population feels a certain tiredness of polarization. [Mas] I think the election tends to be polarized.
President Lula also benefits from this polarization scenario, right? For the election, it may be good, but for the government, no. The big question is, why not bring the center more close to the government’s agenda? It is not the so -called center, it is not the parties, I speak society, the center of society. Neither the right wins alone, nor the left wins alone. So what is in dispute is the center.
Mr. Will you be a candidate for the government of Pernambuco? I don’t know yet. My essential focus is to keep taking care of Recife and being clear that our political ensemble in front of us will have a candidate for the government of Pernambuco. And time will tell you how it will consolidate or crystallize.
X-ray | João Henrique de Andrade Lima Campos, 31
Mayor reelected with 71% of the votes in Recife, is the new national president of the PSB. Graduated in Civil Engineering from the Federal University of Pernambuco, he was a federal deputy from 2019 to 2020, when he ran and won the dispute for the Recife City Hall for the first time. He is the son of the former governor of Pernambuco Eduardo Campos (1965-2014).
