With Eva-Maria Holzleitner, after a quarter of a century break, the SPÖ has recently given the line in the Ministry of Science. It is also responsible for one of the largest universities in Europe, the University of Vienna with its around 85,000 students. Their rector Sebastian Schütze was recently ordered for a second term until 2030. In the standard conversation, Holzleitner and Sagittarius discuss the future of reception tests, second-class doctors and how far women’s promotion should go to the universities.