Former President of, the deputy (PE) accuses the current party head Antonio Rueda, to sell director control in states and municipalities in exchange for money. According to the parliamentarian, the “negotiations” took place in a rented apartment in Sao Paulo to “receive orders”.
“In return [dos diretórios]He received bribes, and I didn’t believe that was true. I am very proud of this, because there was no shortage of signs, there was no shortage of complaints, but as I had known him for 20 years – otherwise, I thought I had known for 20 years – I didn’t believe it, “he says in an interview with Sheet.
Rueda do União Brasil with the PP, which will become the largest association in the country, with 109 federal deputies and 14 senators. He says Bivar’s accusations are “delusions and slander.”
Bivar hired the party’s president as a lawyer for his companies and was responsible for taking him to politics in a relationship that lasted more than 20 years. The two broke up when the group that controlled the DEM allied with Reda to and ward off Bivar in April last year.
The deputy was excluded even from the party’s WhatsApp group. He says he will leave the caption until April to join the other acronym.
Bivar states that he did not make the complaints first so that the accusations did not look like a rematch. “I have no proof, but I am absolutely sure. I already witnessed his negotiations at the hotel where he stayed,” he says.
In a statement, Rueda says that the deputy’s lines do not deserve credit.
“With regret, I say that the trajectory of Mr. Luciano Bivar speaks for himself: he was rejected at the polls, removed by the court, responds to cases and now resorts to delusions and slander to try to justify his political irrelevance. I remember that, just over a year ago, he was to the point of threatening death my daughter, who was only 12 years old. politics and for any good Brazilian. “
Mr. Will you leave União Brasil?
While directed by someone who deals with negotiations, I cannot participate. If [essa situação] Staying to the party window, I have no other alternative.
What negotiations?
I have no proof, but I am absolutely sure. I already witnessed his negotiations at the hotel where he stayed. At the George V Hotel, in São Paulo.
What did he negotiate?
The sale of directories to politicians who said they could do better for the party. But in return, he received bribes, and I didn’t believe that was true. I am very proud of this, because there were no shortage of signs, there was no shortage of complaints. But, as I had known him for 20 years – or better, I thought I had known for 20 years – I didn’t believe it.
Getting out of the presidency made mr. start believing?
One thing brings the other. He formed a family gang within the party. I gave him the freedom to indicate delegates. I thought they were our people, but they were his vassalas. He got the majority in the directory because of indicating his employees all over Brazil. For me, it was a surprise.
But mr. KNOW HE 20 years.
He was expelled from an office [de advocacia]and I brought him to my company. I gave him a table to work and subsidized an office he opened in Sao Paulo to defend our companies. I included him in politics to deal with younger people, such as Flavio Bolsonaro, and suggested that he came to live in Brasilia.
He was his vice president and treasurer. Mr. Never realized that?
He helped me a lot in politics. As he was an employee, he was always willing. I had a meeting and I asked him to represent me. I have always been delegating, had a thousand activities, and I preserved my sociability a lot, my schedules.
Mr. Do you have tests?
No. If I had any proof of this, I would have immediately expelled from the party.
How do you know he received bribes then?
He told me he had rented an apartment in Sao Paulo for people to leave orders there. Orders in exchange for law firm. Little did I know [na ocasião] what [aquilo] It was tip.
What directories did he sell?
There were several directories. From Rio, São Paulo and so many others.
Amazonas was the fuse of his departure. Was this one of the directories?
He insinuated me to annul the election there. I wrote the letter, and he received a press from Marquinhos, the ‘king of the trash’ [José Marcos Moura, empresário investigado na operação Overclean]e do ACM [Neto]. I said I wouldn’t undo it, and that was the big riot that ACM took the opportunity to say, “Look, Rueda, if you come to our side, we make you president.” He pinched him with the blue fly.
How was the relationship with Rueda later?
The best thing was to separate me still in life. Imagine if I died? My friends and children would always worship him like a great friend I had. I had enough time to say that this guy is not my friend, he is a psychopath, a amoral, who has an imperative need to appear, buy beautiful cars ,. Things proper to a poor poor guy.
Are these goods incompatible with his income?
Only we would pay him $ 200,000 a month for him to defend us. And I introduced other customers in the insurance market. It’s not incompatible, but this to buy cars is another adolescence phase.
Why did you keep it as a lawyer for 20 years?
I was not an executive of the company. We lost more than $ 10 million in actions judged to default, where he didn’t even send someone at the hearing. I received many complaints from executives and many were halfway because they knew my connection with him.
Why say these things just now?
I pity him, I have nausea. I have no grudge. He thinks that matter means everything in life. I am a businessman, the money is not everything. Everything I said would look like it’s a thing because I lost the presidency, and I didn’t want you to have this connotation. The past is well settled.
Rueda must preside over the largest federation in Brazil.
I walk on the bank of the party, but I know it has no credibility. The things that talk about him, the friendships they have, are for interests. [Se] It has business, so it has political deal. [Se] There is no business, so there is no political deal. Business of all kinds. “How much does the transport secretary contribute to the party per month? X. So okay, so we will support you.”
Where did this occur?
I have information, but I can’t talk because [este] It’s a national newspaper and, for me to talk, I have to prove it.
There was a fire at Rueda’s beach house amid the dispute between you. He and allies have already implied that mr. had participation.
I have never seen him attribute to me this fire, because on the day he says he attributed to me, I will trigger him in court. The expertise did not rule out the hypothesis of simulation. I didn’t even hear. I don’t know if it was filed because it is under confidential.
Mr. It was the president when the party allied with. How do you see the possible break with the government?
The Lula government has one very good thing: it’s democratic. What I disagree is in the economy. Now I don’t write anything that the party speaks these days, because the party has no soul. It is a party of interests, it goes to the wind. I read him complaining that he was never received by the Plateau. Planalto knows that he doesn’t solve anything, that he will take a photograph to sell influence trafficking.
The former president was his ally. Was the prison unfair?
I am graduated in law. I can tell you: If it violates any precautionary measure, it is up to the judiciary to prevent it from happening again. If the person continues to rebel against the Democratic Rule of Law, he will end up taking a [prisão] preventive.
X-ray | Luciano Bivar, 80
Born in Pernambuco, he is an entrepreneur and politician. He was a presidential candidate in 2006 for the PSL, which he elected Jair Bolsonaro in 2018, and founded União Brasil. Currently, he is a federal deputy.
