Retired Brazilian Ambassador in London and Washington estimates that he talks between Lula and Trump unlocks relationship between the 2 governments and pragmatism tends to dictate the tone of the next conversations
Retired ambassador Rubens Barbosa estimates that negotiations between Brazil and the United States will be pragmatic and leave ideological issues outside conversations about the revision of the tariffs imposed by Americans to imported Brazilian products. To the Poder360Barbosa said on Monday (6.out.2025) that between Presidents (PT) and Donald Trump (Republican Party) was important to possibly unlock sanctions to Brazil.
“I think there in the United States will separate politics, ideology from the commercial part. It is possible that these punishments continue, but without affecting commercial negotiation. Now, we have to see. We don’t know what will happen,” declared.
Retired Brazilian ambassador to Brazil in London and Washington, Barbosa said Trump avoided mentioning in his statement about the conversation with Lula the punishments imposed on Brazilian authorities, such as the case of the Supreme Court Minister Alexandre de Moraes, who was submitted to Magnitsky law. “He only mentioned economic and commercial affairs”these.
In the Brazilian government about the conversation, Planalto reported that Lula to Trump to remove the punishments: “President Lula has described contact as an opportunity to restore 201 years of years of years between the two largest democracies in the West. He recalled that Brazil is one of the 3 G20 countries with whom the United States maintains surplus in the balance of goods and services. He requested the removal of 40% overflow imposed on national products and restrictive measures applied against Brazilian authorities.”
In one on his profile on the social network Truth Social, Trump the application of the MAGNITSKY A law or the suspension of views of authorities. I just said that “Main emphasis was economy and commerce.”
“Trump did not answer [ao pedido feito por Lula]”said Barbosa.
O Poder360 On September 30, 2025 that Lula would put in negotiations with Trump the cases of revocation of visas to Brazilians and punishments via magnitsky law against Moraes. It is interested in the Brazilian to help the minister who has been the main tormentor in the former president’s Supreme Court (PL), recently to more than 27 years in prison on charges of attempted coup d’état.
For Barbosa, Trump is being pragmatic as he approached Brazil because US companies are being affected by the tariff. “I think it’s his pragmatism. It has affected American companies, it has meat and coffee, the impact on the price of the sandwich, the price of the coffee there. This can reverberate in inflation itself. In addition to Brazilian companies, American companies also made pressure. And this reflects the American interest, basically. It’s not because of Brazil’s eyes, no,” declared.
According to the retired ambassador, the choice of US Secretary of State Marco Rubio to be the main interlocutor with Brazil has a technicality in the decision. “The rates that have been imposed on Brazil and all other countries, the main base is the American Economic Emergency Law. And who operates this law, by American law, is the State Department. It is not the Department of Commerce or the Treasury Department. Perhaps, in part, this is the justification [para a decisão]”, these.
