The reserve brigadeiro, from the Ministry of Justice, told (28) to the (Supreme Court) that the former minister almost got rid of the live in which the former president (PL) attacked the electronic ballot boxes.
“Interestingly, he did not participate very much [da live]. The president even rehearsed Live’s submission: ‘Ok, thanks, good night’. But an assistant crawled under the table, poked the president and said Anderson was outside with information, “he said.
According to Lorenzo, it was after the warning that Bolsonaro called Anderson to participate in. The former minister read a Federal Police report to, according to his own, “corroborate” the false accusations of fraud at the electronic ballot box.
The Federal Police concluded, in an investigation into the case, that the information was used out of context in intentional action of the group to disseminate misinformation.
This is because, contrary to Torres’s speech, the PF experts did not point out in electronic ballot box reports in 2016, 2018 and 2020 any possibility of fraud or tampering with the election results.
They only suggested that the votes of the electronic ballot box were printed as an additional tool to make the process even more reliable, but without lifting suspicions for the electoral process – as Bolsonaro.
Antonio Ramirez Lorenzo gave testimony to the STF as a witness to the defense of Torres in the process of the 2022 coup plot.
The brigadeiro said it was informed by Bolsonaro government members about the call for Anderson Torres to participate in the Live. The former president made weekly broadcasts on the networks, always on Thursdays, and would devote the time to publicize false evidence of fraud in the electoral system.
The participation of the former minister generated tension in the Ministry of Justice, according to Lorenzo. “The agenda was controversial, there were no signs of electronic voting problems, and the minister’s exhibition worried us a lot,” he said.
According to the former chief of staff, the Justice Folder was able to take the presidency of Live at the ministry’s headquarters and was able to ensure that Torres would not sit at the table during Bolsonaro’s speech.
Lorenzo also said that he sought the Federal Police reports about the inspection in previous elections, highlighted sections with a mark and handed the documents to the then minister.
The concern, according to the witness, was to gather only technical information for the presentation of Torres. Thus, it would be possible to fulfill Bolsonaro’s request “without further commitment”.
Minister Alexandre de Moraes, who conducts the testimonies, took the hearing with Lorenzo to question him about demonstrations on social networks that, according to the minister, could indicate that the transition in the Ministry of Justice to the Lula administration had not been conducted in a technical way.
There were two tweets highlighted by Moraes. One in which the Brigadier criticized Minister Flávio Dino for summoning a press conference after the attacks of December 12, 2022; another in criticism of Minister Luis Roberto Barroso, then president of the TSE (Superior Electoral Court).
The publications disappeared from social networks when Lorenzo excluded his X profile, former Twitter.
The brigadeiro said that in the heat of the moment, his personal opinion was “too loaded in paints”. “Social networks are not arena for that. I regret because they are personal opinions that I should keep for me,” he added.
Federal District Military Police colonel Rosivan Correia de Souza was also heard in this session. He was asked about the DF security structure and, in the first question, said the PM general command is not subordinate to the Public Security Bureau.
After the testimony, the Attorney General of the Republic, Paulo Gonet, returned to the theme and the colonel confirmed the answer. Anderson Torres’s defense stated that there is no subordination relationship in the DF organizational chart. Alexandre de Moraes then said he was Secretary of Security.
“So the security secretary is a Queen of England?” The minister asked.
“I wouldn’t say a Queen of England. Today we even have a stronger binding, a subordination, say, since Governor Ibaneis [Rocha] He assumed, he greatly reinforced this binding, but the order… “, replied the colonel.
The minister ended by reinforcing his argument. “Let’s take the Rules of Procedure. I went from the Council of Security Secretaries, I am a personal friend of the current Secretary of Security of the DF. I mean that it does not exercise hierarchy fold the police is to say that the President of the Republic is not the commander-in-chief of the Armed Forces.”
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