While the date for the meeting between the president of the United States, Donald Trump, and Brazil, Luiz Inacio Lula da Silva, is not marked, the seizure of the negotiations in both the Planalto and in the affected sectors. There is a possibility of a conversation for video conferencing this week. But what to expect from the dialogue between Lula and Trump? THE Infomoney Listen to three experts to answer this question.
The assessment of Guilherme Casarões, a professor at Florida Interaction University, is that Trump will not accept to pass the image that the United States is being passed back, either to the internal audience or the outside.
“This will require some creativity from Brazilian diplomacy, and our diplomacy is quite skilled in this regard, to promote, whatever the result of the conversation, as a victory for both sides, but giving Trump the possibility of singing the victory to their own side,” says Casarões.
UNESP International Relations Professor, Marcos Cordeiro Pires bet that this first conversation between US President Donald Trump and the Brazilian president “will be very choreographed.” “In such a way that you don’t use images to generate disproportionate political gain for one of the parts,” he says.
“I believe it already has some flattened question between Donald Trump and the Brazilian interlocutors. It’s something we should look with some suspicion.” For him, the reason is the fact that the secretary of state Marco Rubio apparently not being involved in the negotiation.
Pires recalls that the first meeting between Marco Rubio and Brazilian Chancellor, Mauro Vieira, had no official statement, and the Brazilian chancellor preferred not to talk to the press, passing on the information only to Lula. “I imagine it must have been a very tense conversation,” says Pires.
For UnB’s teacher of International Relations Antonio Jorge Ramalho, the US president often behaves in a “childish” way. But he believes that Itamaraty will know how to lead the process that will meet if he materializes to reduce this risk. “For his part, Lula has never been naive and is very intuitive; he will know how to get rid of traps,” he says.
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“It does not matter to Brazil to discuss any political agenda, even because Lula and the Brazilian government have reinforced several times over the past few months that Brazil’s sovereignty and democracy are non -negotiable.”
According to him, “I would say that agribusiness, in particular, has more concerns about what it sells to the United States, still a lower fraction of global trade or exports, especially from Brazil to the United States,” he says.
Casarons cites coffee, meat and fruits, which ended up out of tariff exemptions and were or potentially will be much affected in the coming months and years.
According to UNESP professor Marcos Cordeiro Pires, Brazilian businessmen played an important role in the intermediation of this conversation, particularly JBS.
From an economic point of view, the expert believes that the discussion will enter critical minerals. “Brazil is the second country with the largest rare land reservations in the world, it has important cobalt reserves, nickel, is the world’s largest producer of Niobium. This tends to be a strategic issue for the United States to find these minerals within the Western hemisphere, which would have no restrictions, for example, in case of conflict that could occur in the Indo-Pacific context,” he says.
Professor Antonio Ramalho points out that the most sensitive sectors of tariffs in Brazil are diversifying partners, redirecting exports and receiving support from the Brazilian government. “The sectors most affected by US tariffs press the government, which sees inflation raise. Earlier or later, in the case of Brazil, this situation will normalize, probably in higher levels, implying a reduction in trade flow,” he says.
For him, there will be a positive aspect that is the materialization of preferred trade agreements with third countries, some of which have been negotiating for decades.
“At the end of this line, the US will have reduced its influence on the global scope and its participation in world trade, to the detriment of its population. If Brazil knows how to take advantage of the opportunities created by this rearrangement, it will have more resilience in trade and a more open economy, for the benefit of Brazilian consumers,” he says.